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Mojo

Jäsen
Suosikkijoukkue
HIFK, Buli
Se on Moskovassakin alkanut paluu entisaikaan ja tästäkin saavat kiittää minikääpiötä. Kai ne sitten ovat tyytyväisiä, kun kaiken tuon perseilyn hyväksyvät ja täten kansa on saanut arvoisensa johtajan.

Moskovalaisia onkin nyt kehotettu opettelemaan perinteisen kartan lukemista ja hankkimaan arjessa tarvittavia paperikarttoja. Kaupunkilaisia on myös muistutettu siitä, ettei neuvostovuosina Venäjällä ollut lainkaan mukana kulkevaa Internetiä.
 
Suosikkijoukkue
HIFK, Liverpool
Moskovalaisia onkin nyt kehotettu opettelemaan perinteisen kartan lukemista ja hankkimaan arjessa tarvittavia paperikarttoja.
Ja uusimmat paperikartatkin lienee ensimmäisen maailmansodan aikaisia. Siitä vaan suunnistamaan.
 

alwahla

Jäsen
Suosikkijoukkue
Flames, Canadiens, Kraken, HIFK

Sistis

Jäsen
Suosikkijoukkue
Україна
Se on Moskovassakin alkanut paluu entisaikaan ja tästäkin saavat kiittää minikääpiötä. Kai ne sitten ovat tyytyväisiä, kun kaiken tuon perseilyn hyväksyvät ja täten kansa on saanut arvoisensa johtajan.

Moskovalaisia onkin nyt kehotettu opettelemaan perinteisen kartan lukemista ja hankkimaan arjessa tarvittavia paperikarttoja. Kaupunkilaisia on myös muistutettu siitä, ettei neuvostovuosina Venäjällä ollut lainkaan mukana kulkevaa Internetiä.

Mitenhän oli Putinin ihaileman Pietari Suuren aikaan? Silloin ei tainnut olla tarjolla edes paperikarttoja - ainakaan rahvaalle...
 
Suosikkijoukkue
Die Nationalmannschaft, Bayern München, HIFK
Mitenhän oli Putinin ihaileman Pietari Suuren aikaan? Silloin ei tainnut olla tarjolla edes paperikarttoja - ainakaan rahvaalle...
Neuvostoaikaan oli erittäin tavallista, etteivät kartat pitäneet kutiaan. Joskus katu- ja maastokartoissa oli huomattavia puutteita, toisinaan taas ilmiselviä virheitä. Syykin on tiedossa. Ainoastaan viranomaisilla, kuten KGB:lla tai puna-armeijan johdolla, sai olla hallussaan määrätyn tyyppisiä täydellisiä karttoja. Vapaasti tai edes teoriassa vapaasti saatavilla oleviin karttoihin tehtiin tahallisesti pienempiä tai isompia virheitä, koska mahdollinen vihollinen saattaisi käyttää liian oikeellista karttaa hyväkseen. Neukuilla oli tuo meininki kai suunnilleen loppuun saakka, vaikka satelliittitekniikan kehittyminen teki jo 1980-luvulla moisen karttapelleilyn melko tarpeettomaksi, nykyajasta puhumattakaan.
 

Sistis

Jäsen
Suosikkijoukkue
Україна
Neuvostoaikaan oli erittäin tavallista, etteivät kartat pitäneet kutiaan. Joskus katu- ja maastokartoissa oli huomattavia puutteita, toisinaan taas ilmiselviä virheitä.

Sama linja jatkuu ilmeisesti nykyään. Olen ymmärtänyt, että maassa myynnissä olevissa kartoissa Krimin niemimaa kuuluu virheellisesti Venäjään.
 
Suosikkijoukkue
Die Nationalmannschaft, Bayern München, HIFK
Sama linja jatkuu ilmeisesti nykyään. Olen ymmärtänyt, että maassa myynnissä olevissa kartoissa Krimin niemimaa kuuluu virheellisesti Venäjään.
Venäjällä on myös helkkarin hankala painaa mitään tietokirjoja yms., koska menneisyys ja tosiasiat muuttuvat koko ajan. Entisestä totuudesta voi tulla yhdessä yössä fasistis-länsimainen valhe, jolloin on huono juttu, jos oma nimi löytyy kirjasta tekijän paikalta. Vähän sama juttu noiden valtioiden rajojen kanssa, tosin venäläiset tuntuvat sössivän itsekin niiden suhteen. Tässä katsannossa olisikin helpointa, että venäläiset ymmärtäisivät pysyä omalla puolellaan rajaa, mikä tuntuu olevan tälle eliölajille melko haasteellista.
 

finnjewel

Jäsen
Suosikkijoukkue
Porin Ässät, KooKoo, KPL, Kiovan Dynamo
Painettujen kirjojen kanssa on tietysti ongelmansa.
Kuvia on tosin Venäjällä retusoitu iät ajat, ja nykyajan photoshoppaus ja deep fake-menetelmät sopivat mainiosti propaganda-aseeksi.
 

Surukuku

Jäsen
Suosikkijoukkue
Sanaan Sepot ja muut jemeniläiset kiekkoseurat
Neuvostoaikaan oli erittäin tavallista, etteivät kartat pitäneet kutiaan. Joskus katu- ja maastokartoissa oli huomattavia puutteita, toisinaan taas ilmiselviä virheitä. Syykin on tiedossa. Ainoastaan viranomaisilla, kuten KGB:lla tai puna-armeijan johdolla, sai olla hallussaan määrätyn tyyppisiä täydellisiä karttoja. Vapaasti tai edes teoriassa vapaasti saatavilla oleviin karttoihin tehtiin tahallisesti pienempiä tai isompia virheitä, koska mahdollinen vihollinen saattaisi käyttää liian oikeellista karttaa hyväkseen. Neukuilla oli tuo meininki kai suunnilleen loppuun saakka, vaikka satelliittitekniikan kehittyminen teki jo 1980-luvulla moisen karttapelleilyn melko tarpeettomaksi, nykyajasta puhumattakaan.
Kyllä tämä piti paikkansa vielä NL:n jälkeenkin - mitään kunnollista maastokarttaa en nähnyt missääs tai mistään niiden vuosien aikana, jolloin olin EU:n projekteissa Venäjällä.

Btw - suunniteltiin pientä "kakkakepposta" kaverille, kun FSB antoi luvan demota nyky- eli GPS-tekniikalla toteutettua maastonmittausta tiealueella, jonka päässä on Severodvinsk, Venäjän laivaston ydinsukellusveneiden päätukikohta ja suuri laivastotelakka, johon on keskitetty erityisesti ydinkäyttöisten alusten, sukellusveneiden rakennus- ja korjaustoimintaa - mm. Kursk oli tehty siellä.
Kyseisen kaverin läppärillä oli tuo mittausaineisto, kun hän oli lähdössä takaisin Suomeen ja ajateltiin, että pieni vihjelappunen tämän venäjää taitamattoman matkassa aiheuttaisi mukavan säväyksen tullissa. Kepposesta luovuttiin kuitenkin aika nopeasti, kun vierailimme ko. kaupungissa ja yksi meistä otti kuvia sukellusvenetelakasta, ioka näkyi eräälle sillalle, ihan huvin vuoksi vain, mutta niin kuski kuin oppaammekin valahtivat ihan kalpeiksi ja hokivat: "Kamerat pois, kamerat pois!!!".
Aateltiin sitten, että voisi käydä niin, että ollaan nk. rikoskumppaneita tuossa tulenaran "kartta-aineiston salakuljetuksessa" ja ollaan Siperiassa kohta koko porukka, jos hölmöillään...
 

jalperi

Jäsen
Suosikkijoukkue
SaiPa,sympatiat Itä-Kaakkois-Suomi-Turku akselille
Viimeksi muokattu:

jalperi

Jäsen
Suosikkijoukkue
SaiPa,sympatiat Itä-Kaakkois-Suomi-Turku akselille
Tiistain dronehyökkäyksestä vielä, tässä listaa vähän ketä eliitin asuinalueella asuu

Yesterday's drone attack targeted not just Moscow - it was aimed at Rublevka, an elite real estate area in Moscow region where many of Russia's richest and most influential people reside - including Putin. Today, information appeared that yesterday, 30th May, Putin was likely in his Novo-Ogarevo residence and was woken up early by his security because of a high level of threat to his safety - one of the drones fell 3 km from his residence, in Ilyinskoye village.Who else lives nearby:
- Gennadiy Timchenko, Putin’s friend;
- Mikhail Mishustin, Russian prime minister;
- Sergey Shoigu, defense minister;
- Yuriy Vorobyev, senator;
- Arkadiy and Boris Rotenbergs, Putin’s closest friends;
- Sergey Kirienko, ex prime minister;
- Igor Sechin, close ally of Putin;
- Viktor Zolotov, head of Russian Guards;
- Viktor Zorkin, head of constitutional court
;- Ruslan Tsalikov, deputy defense minister.
These are just the officials, many mistresses and various in-laws also reside in that area.Central command post of Russian strategic missile forces was also targeted by a drone.
 

jalperi

Jäsen
Suosikkijoukkue
SaiPa,sympatiat Itä-Kaakkois-Suomi-Turku akselille
Rautatieliikennettä häiritty taas Venäjällä



Venäjän puolustusministeri lipsautti raportin mobilisaatiosta julkiseksi



koko tekstin käännös
https://archive.is/bvxQK

ORGANIZATIONAL AND MOBILIZATION BODIES WILL HAVE TO FURTHER IMPROVE THEIR WORK IN ALL AREAS OF ACTIVITY
25 May 2023 06:00

(Section) Significant for Russia

(Heading) Outcomes and tasks



In Moscow, on March 27, 2023, the Main Organizational and Mobilization Directorate (GOMU) of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation held a meeting with the leadership of the organizational and mobilization directorates of the headquarters of the military districts, the headquarters of the Northern Fleet and the military commissars of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation.

Colonel-General Yevgeny BURDINSKY, Chief of the Main Organizational and Mobilization Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation - Deputy Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, addressed the participants of the meeting with an analysis of the results of work in 2022 and the setting of long-term tasks .

Mobilization events of this magnitude hasn't been since WWII

In 2022, the personnel of the military commissariats completed an unprecedented amount of tasks. Despite the fact that some of them were carried out for the first time, the tasks were solved on time and with the highest quality.

One of the most important was the implementation of the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of September 21, 2022 No. 647 "On the announcement of partial mobilization in the Russian Federation."

There have been no mobilization events of this magnitude since the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945. Separate mobilization activities were carried out during the preparation of a limited contingent of Soviet troops for entry into Afghanistan in December 1979. Then more than 55,000 citizens were called up from the reserve, more than 100 military units were completed and formed.

During the liquidation of the accident at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant, more than 310,000 people were called up for special training for four and a half years on a rotational basis, 88 military units were formed.

The military commissariats, together with the executive authorities of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation and local governments, in the course of carrying out measures of partial mobilization, over 300,000 citizens were delivered to the troops and forces. In total, more than 280 military units and divisions have been formed.

I would point out two issues:

- the unpreparedness of a part of society to perform military duty;
- provision of military equipment and deployment of personnel.

At the same time, many volunteers, without waiting for a call, appeared at the military commissariats. And this happened despite unprecedented information pressure, especially from the online blogging community.

In general, the mobilization of human resources in the military districts was carried out in accordance with the developed plans and on time.

In pursuance of the instructions of the President of the Russian Federation, in order to exercise the rights of citizens who have expressed a desire to voluntarily take part in a special military operation, detachments of the country's combat army reserve - Bars - have been formed and staffed with volunteers.

Taking into account the special status of volunteers who are not military personnel, a separate procedure was developed for providing them with small arms, military equipment, clothing, equipment and other materiel.

Subjects of the Russian Federation are involved in providing tactical equipment, sleeping bags and other necessary property. In the last stages, state corporations and private companies joined the work.

In order to build up and maintain the combat potential of groupings of troops and forces at the required level, the reserve units of the General Staff and the commanders of the military districts have been formed and completed (understaffed) with personnel.

In accordance with the decision of the President of the Russian Federation, work has been organized to attract employees of security companies to participate in a special military operation.

In the course of the partial mobilization by the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, together with the Russian Ministry of Digital Development, a service has been implemented on the Unified Portal of State and Municipal Services (Gosuslugi) that allows citizens to remotely submit applications to military commissariats for enlistment in volunteers or military service under a contract.

Since the implementation of the service, more than 17 thousand citizens in 2022 have voluntarily expressed a desire to take part in a special military operation. Of these, more than 60 percent exercised their right by submitting an application on the State Services portal.

Pilot project and directions of digitalization
A pilot project was implemented to digitalize the activities of the military commissariat of the Odintsovo city district (city districts of Krasnoznamensk and Vlasikha, Moscow Region), during which a unified information environment was created, and the services provided by the military commissariat to citizens were converted into electronic form.
At the expense of the information resources of the Moscow region, an array of information about citizens subject to initial military registration has been collected. His reconciliation with the information on paper in the military commissariats showed a 100% match of the data.

The formed register of conscripts for the Moscow region contains data on 45929 citizens of this category, including 1937 citizens for the Odintsovo military commissariat.
As part of the implementation of the service for "Comprehensive receipt of certificates", more than 2.5 thousand certificates were issued at the request of citizens, which is about 30 percent of the total.

Based on the applications received, changes were made to the records of more than 950 citizens who are registered with the military.

Workplaces of specialist doctors in the military commissariat have access to EMIAS, thanks to which medical staff receive up-to-date information about the health status of recruits in real time.

More than 1,000 requests received electronically from executive authorities in the system of interdepartmental electronic interaction were processed.

In order to reduce paper workflow, intradepartmental correspondence was organized in electronic form in the electronic document management system, more than 2.2 thousand documents were transmitted and received.

A base has been created for 31.6 million people, including 2.9 million citizens of military age.

As part of the implementation of the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of November 25, 2022 No. 854, together with federal executive authorities, work is underway to create a state information resource containing information about citizens necessary to update military registration documents.

Currently, information has been updated regarding more than 22.9 million citizens registered with the military, supplemented by up-to-date data on identity documents, SNILS, TIN, places of residence, telephones, email addresses.

Obtaining information from the Unified Population Register will make it possible to identify citizens of military age who are required to be, but are not registered with the military, as well as persons who have taken citizenship of the Russian Federation and have not appeared at the military commissariats.

The availability of up-to-date information on mobile phone numbers and e-mail addresses, as well as sending subpoenas through the Unified Portal of State and Municipal Services will ensure guaranteed notification of recruits.

Issues of preparing citizens for higher education, issuance of certificates to "Chernobyl victims" and incentives for employees of military registration and enlistment offices
The task of preparing citizens for military service in military registration specialties (VUS) in 2022 was completed in full, more precisely, by 100.2 percent. 23827 specialists have been trained.

During 2022, the Central Commission received 178 applications for issuing certificates to participants in the liquidation of the consequences of the accident at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. Applications are 100% completed.

Based on the results of completing tasks in 2022, 382 employees of military commissariats were presented for awards by the command of the military districts and the Northern Fleet. The award material sent to the Main Personnel Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation was implemented in 2022 in relation to 179 employees who received state and departmental awards.

At the same time, work was carried out on additional material incentives for employees of military commissariats. In the fourth quarter of 2022, at the request of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, 5 billion rubles were allocated from the reserve fund of the Government of the Russian Federation. The funds have been transferred in the prescribed manner.

Work in new subjects Russian Federation

In the period from November 10 to December 2, 2022, the commission of the Russian Ministry of Defense carried out work to include the military commissariats of the Donetsk and Lugansk people's republics in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

An assessment of the main performance indicators of the military registration and enlistment offices of the people's republics of Donbass indicates their readiness to perform tasks as intended. So, from the Donetsk People's Republic and the Lugansk People's Republic, 79,800 people were called up for mobilization, about 2,000 vehicles were delivered.

Versatile help sponsored military commissariats
In accordance with the instructions of the Chief of the General Staff, the military commissariats of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation provide methodological, practical and material assistance to sponsored military commissariats.

This is done most actively by the military commissariats of the city of Moscow, the Moscow and Omsk regions, and the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug.

Implementation of an individual approach

Participants of a special military operation who have been declared unfit for military service for health reasons, but are able to perform duties that do not require significant physical exertion, and who have expressed a desire to continue military service, are granted such a right by inclusion in military units and organizing military positions personally for each such serviceman. .

This makes it possible to implement an individual approach to determining the further service assignment of these military personnel and a special procedure for military service, as well as to the provision of social benefits and guarantees.

Tasks for the current year

An analysis of the results of our work showed the need for its further improvement in all areas of activity, taking into account the tasks set by the President and Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation during the expanded meeting of the Collegium of the Russian Ministry of Defense on December 21, 2022.

The main task in 2023 is the fulfillment of the assignment for the selection of citizens for military service under the contract, including in registered units, as well as the fulfillment of the norm for conscripting citizens for military service.

In addition, the following tasks have to be solved.

For organizational building Armed Forces
In order to improve the social status and attract qualified specialists, employees of military commissariats should be transferred to the federal state civil service.

At the same time, it is necessary to ensure the retention in the military commissariats of employees with many years of conscientious work experience in the system of organizational and mobilization bodies.

In 2023, it is necessary to timely provide organizational and staffing support for the formation of combined arms and air armies, an army corps, the Azov naval region, five divisions and 26 brigades, and the creation of the Moscow and Leningrad military districts.

Large-scale tasks to build up the composition of the Armed Forces, increase their strength in 2023, to carry out organizational measures in a short time oblige us to organize manning, deployment, comprehensive support, synchronization of measures with the deadlines for submitting the main types of weapons, military and special equipment and other material resources.

In the course of the current refinement of mobilization planning, it is necessary to ensure the full and high-quality assignment of mobilization resources to newly formed military units.

Maintain up-to-date databases of citizens registered with the military, complexes of automation equipment in military commissariats (municipalities).

Organize interaction with the heads of the territorial bodies of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia, local authorities and organizations for the search and military registration of citizens who are not registered, but are obliged to be registered with the military, including persons who have taken Russian citizenship.

To improve the preparation of military commissariats for the mobilization of human and transport resources under various conditions of the situation, taking into account the experience of partial mobilization.

For this, the preparation plans provide for 863 events of various levels and scales.

As part of the formation of a mobilization manpower reserve, it is necessary to increase the rate of selection of candidates for the reserve from among the retired servicemen who have completed their military service. Pay special attention to citizens who took part in a special military operation, as well as those who applied to the military commissariats and expressed a desire to take part in it as part of volunteer formations. Contracts with them should be concluded on the ground with subsequent assignment to the military units-shapers.

On the recruitment of the Armed Forces personnel and conscription of citizens for military service

The main task defined by the President of the Russian Federation V.V. Putin as "the most important task of national importance" - to ensure, in cooperation with the heads of regions, the unconditional fulfillment of the assignment for the selection of citizens for military service under the contract. The President of Russia, by order Pr-309 dated February 14, 2023, entrusted the coordination and management of the implementation of this task to the Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation D.A. Medvedev.

The main efforts should be focused on recruiting new formations and maintaining the staffing level of 95-97 percent for the group of troops with contract soldiers.

This task must be carried out unconditionally.

It is necessary to organize high-quality planning and conscription of citizens for military service.

It is also necessary to ensure the staffing of the Armed Forces with specialists trained in the educational organizations of the DOSAAF of Russia, taking into account the needs of groupings of troops and forces and the activities provided for by the Action Plan of the Russian Ministry of Defense for 2019-2025.

It is necessary to ensure the full implementation of the plan for the preliminary selection of candidates for completing the first courses of universities of the Russian Ministry of Defense in 2023.

It is necessary to ensure the qualitative implementation of measures for the mandatory preparation of citizens for military service, including the activities of the Interdepartmental Commission; organization and holding of the Competition among the constituent entities of the Russian Federation for the best preparation of citizens for military service, organization and conduct of conscription for military service; autumn call for military service.

On digitalization issues activities of military commissariats
In order to unconditionally implement the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation on the creation of a state information resource containing information about citizens necessary for updating military registration documents, it is necessary to ensure quarterly updating of the databases of the automated mobilization deployment management system using information coming from the database of the GOMU of the General Staff.

To improve the quality of this work, all Horizon systems delivered to military commissariats in 2023 must be put into operation no later than November 25 of this year.

It is necessary to ensure the daily processing of citizens' applications received through the Unified Portal of State and Municipal Services.

I want to note that the lives of servicemen and volunteers participating in a special military operation depend on the timely and high-quality fulfillment of tasks by us. Please don't forget about it.
Pari ketjua Putinista ja hänen johtamistavastaan






 

jalperi

Jäsen
Suosikkijoukkue
SaiPa,sympatiat Itä-Kaakkois-Suomi-Turku akselille
Meduza teki kyselyn lukijoilleen, mitä mieltä nämä ovat sodasta










Even some readers of Meduza justify the invasion of Ukraine. We asked them to explain why. Here's What Came Out Many of these letters are physically painful to read. Nevertheless, we consider them an important document​

09:24, June 3, 2023
Source: Meduza

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Aleksey Malgavko / Reuters / Scanpix / LETA
From the first days of the invasion, Meduza has been investigating—and refuting—arguments from Russian military propaganda in detail (here are just a couple of examples: one , two ). And although to many of us her theses seem ridiculous and unconvincing, we must admit that propaganda works. Even among our readers, there are those who continue to find justifications for the invasion of Ukraine - despite how much grief this war has already brought to tens of millions of Ukrainians - and despite the fact that it is destructive for Russia itself. We decidedlisten to these people - and asked them to explain why they are in favor of continuing the fighting. Over the course of a few days, we received hundreds of detailed responses, carefully studied them - and decided to publish some of the letters with minor editing. We not only consider these texts an important document, but we also hope that they will help to understand what to do next: how to stop the war, how to change the political regime in Russia - and how to deal with those who will most likely never be in anything. cannot be persuaded.
We warn you. These letters can make you extremely uncomfortable. In addition, there is a mat in this text.

Andrey​

35 years old, Volgograd
The war ends when one side wins. The defeat of Russia will mean national humiliation, which cannot be allowed. Therefore, you need to win - there is no choice anymore.
Ukraine is not looking for peace . They only ask for more weapons and shell Russian cities. Too much blood has been spilled to just say "thank you all, let's go."

Alexei​

24 years old, Yakutsk
The question [of Meduza about the reasons for supporting the war] is actually raised incorrectly. I do not support the war, but I do not want Russia to lose either. In this case, it will be worse for everyone, and the world to which we are accustomed will now certainly collapse and even greater darkness will come. War is wrong, but losing is unacceptable.

Paul​

30 years old, Germany
I don't support war, but I decided to write a comment because people who try to find excuses for war are equated with those who support it.
I am angry at both sides of the conflict. On Russia - because she started a stupid bloodthirsty war, which daily leads to senseless killings. I am angry with the countries that support Ukraine because they do not call for an immediate cessation of hostilities, that is, for an end to senseless killings. Instead, [these states] supply the country with weapons, knowing that this only increases the number of victims.

Sergey​

38 years old, city not specified
I do not support war. But unfortunately, at the moment my Motherland (Russia) faces the question of existence. I do not want the collapse, the destruction of my country. I have questions for the instigators of the SVO . But first, the existential question must be resolved.

Anonymous Reader​

38 years old, city not specified
The only thing worse than a war is a lost war. It was a crazy mistake to start it, but now we need to win it, otherwise we will face the grief of the vanquished . I don't support Putin, damn him.

Dmitriy​

35 years old, Moscow
Initially and consistently opposed the war. However, over time, fatigue accumulated from what was happening, from constant fear for themselves and friends, [from] what they could call [to the front] if they opposed, from foreign media who wrote that the Russians needed to do something with the current government and war.
There is also an understanding that if there is no way to get out of the situation without losing face or losing globally, then life in the Russian Federation will become dramatically worse. There are a number of examples in world history that speak of this (Germany, for example).
However, war is always bad, and it brings nothing but blood, death and crippled destinies. The decision to start it was wrong, that's a fact, but now the situation has reached a stage where it is no longer worth losing.

Oleg​

27 years old, city not specified
[I support the war] because I believe that the “peace plan” presented by [Vladimir] Zelensky and supported by the “collective West” is highly likely to cause such damage to Russia that it is not certain that it will survive it. And I am aware that [in this case] my well-being, my security and prospects will deteriorate much more than [if] the Russian army manages to inflict sufficient damage on the Armed Forces of Ukraine so that in the end the [prisoned] peace would be more compromise.

Anonymous Reader​

36 years old, Tyumen
I do not support war in the Z-understanding . Moreover, I went nuts on February 24 [2022]. But, as a resident of the Russian Federation, I believe that the introduction of troops into Ukraine is a mistake, and the withdrawal is a crime. I'm not going to pay reparations for the mistakes of others for the next 20 years. No one talks to the losing side.
I will not take up arms. You can say that I am an observer who does not support Ukraine. I was there dozens of times before the Maidan, and I know how the mood and laws [in the country] changed. If a European state is being built there, then it will be similar to Francoist Spain or Salazar's Portugal , which is no different from Putin's Russian Federation.

WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING IN UKRAINE​

Victoria​

28 years old, St. Petersburg
Initially, I had a negative attitude [to the war with Ukraine], as well as to any military action. But over time, having seen the amount of hatred for Russia and the Russians, the joy of the explosion of the Crimean bridge, the active supply of weapons to Ukraine from the West, I began to understand that Russophobia and other things that previously seemed to me stupid propaganda are not always lies. War is always sorrow, but sometimes unpopular decisions are the right ones.

IS THERE RUSSOPHOBIA​

Nicholas​

27 years old, Austria
I think the Western point of view is not entirely correct and I agree with Putin's terminology about a unipolar world with double standards . I believe that the West itself rocked the boat and made the Russian government responsible for what happened. In addition, constant financial support and pumping of weapons force the Ukrainian regime to continue the war and not negotiate.

Artem​

40 years old, Berlin
First of all, I support not the war, but the Russian people and the interests of Russia. At first I was strongly opposed, but with the development of events I changed my point of view.
I have been living in Germany for 20 years and have never seen such propaganda. Western politicians and the media have taken an absolutely one-sided position: Russia is an aggressor, Ukraine is a heroic state, Putin is always wrong, everyone looks into Zelensky’s mouth. Those who hold a different position are pushed out of the information space and "cancelled".
The Western European states have shown themselves to be completely weak-willed and are acting on orders from the United States. Ukraine is controlled by the Americans directly. This conflict fully proves that there are no independent states in Western Europe, and there are practically none left in Eastern Europe.

IT'S TIME TO LISTEN TO OUR PODCAST "SIGNAL", WHICH UNDERSTANDS THE STAMPS OF RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA​

Alexei​

31 years old, Moscow
So what are the options guys? The war has already begun, there is no turning back. Due to circumstances, I am not ready to leave; I don’t want to feel like a guest worker, even if it’s an educated one (I’m a programmer). I love Russia, life in Moscow has always been the most comfortable for me. How can I now be against it, if everyone understands perfectly well what will happen if the current government loses?
There is no way back. Let them fight as long as there is mutual interest, and after the change of power (and this will certainly happen), we'll see what happens. And what happened there, for what reasons and whether it was worth it to happen - these are judgments that now have no meaning. If anything, I was against the war from the very beginning. But now I am against radical "liberals", Western hypocrisy and everything that continues to feed this war.

Sergey​

27 years old, Perm
I support the actions of my president and my country. Yes, initially I did not quite understand the meaning of this entire “operation”, but after a while I saw Russophobic statements both from Ukraine, and from the European Union and the United States. Any person who has critical thinking and has at least the makings of reason understands that Russia is not a "terrorist state", we are only defending our interests and sovereignty. Therefore, I, like the majority of Russian citizens, fully support the NWO, and if it is necessary to go to war, then I will go.

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Ruslan​

28 years old, Kazan
I do not support, but do not condemn Russia for the war. I believe that since Russia started the war, it showed the weakness of its diplomacy and inability to negotiate with a neighboring state. However, I also do not support the point of view of those who compare Russia almost with Nazi Germany.
Firstly, Ukraine had a choice, it could agree with us in the first days of the war, before everything went too far, and fulfill our demands. It would have lost territories, but it would have retained itself as a state. Is land more important than human lives? Therefore, Ukraine also bears part of the blame for the lives of those people who died. I am sure that people living in the territories that would have crossed over to Russia would definitely not begin to live worse. Perhaps somewhere even better.

David​

34 years old, Saratov
The Minsk agreements were a formality, Russia could not unilaterally implement them. The West cynically later admitted that it was simply preparing Ukraine for war (is this true - in our podcast ).
Nobody prevented Ukraine from reaching an agreement with the [self-proclaimed and then annexed] LPR and DPR, giving them autonomy. Instead, Ukraine bombarded its own cities.
The war in Ukraine can be seen as a solution to the national question, which was postponed after the collapse of the USSR. [Also] no one prevented Ukraine from developing Crimea [before its annexation]. [They] remembered that Crimea was Ukrainian only when they lost it. The overwhelming majority of the population of Crimea voted honestly for joining Russia.
Ukraine did not want to negotiate with Russia. Zelensky took the wrong position, believing the promises of the West. As a result, the cities of Ukraine are destroyed, the economy is falling apart, millions of people have left the country.

Murad​

28 years old, Moscow
Despite the fact that our government is corrupt and inefficient, Ukraine is a danger to our southern borders. If there is no Black Sea Fleet in the Crimea, we will lose influence on the Black Sea and the Caucasus. From 2014 to 2022, all Ukrainian governments actively declared that they would return Crimea and the eastern territories by force or diplomacy. These are direct threats.
[For comparison:] any country in Europe or the United States will calmly use force if it senses danger at its borders. I consider their current rhetoric to be a policy of double standards.

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Dmitriy​

24 years old, Moscow
I do not support the idea of starting a war, but I do not support the idea of ending it now either. My feeling is that no one in the world is trying to offer Russians any healthy alternative to what Putin is offering. The authorities do not touch the Russians who are studying or doing something related to defense, so it is possible to survive the war with this government.
But from abroad, ideas are heard only about the gloomy future [of Russia] or simply about our dehumanization. So I'd rather be with my compatriots than hope for the goodwill of some [adviser to the head of the office of the President of Ukraine Mikhail] Podolyak or an American official who earns money on the war.

Anonymous Reader​

30 years old, Astana
In a little over a year, [my] authorities and moral guidelines have turned into traitors (who wish harm to the citizens of their country, call for sanctions and do not try to remove them), disgraceful (offer to surrender to mercy and blame themselves), infirmities and liars.
Even now I think that Russia got involved in this war in vain, very vainly. But the way out offered by those [politicians] whom I [formerly] hoped for is shameful, painful, humiliating and deceitful. It is better to wait for those who will replace Putin: Russia is full of smart people.
Repent for three [next] lives, give up nuclear weapons and pay reparations - thank you, no need. I hope that the war will end as soon as possible and as few people as possible will die in it - both citizens of Russia in the first place, and citizens of Ukraine.
 
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finnjewel

Jäsen
Suosikkijoukkue
Porin Ässät, KooKoo, KPL, Kiovan Dynamo
Kyllä tuntuu olevan venäläisille ylipääsemättömän vaikeaa tajuta, että ei heiltä kukaan mitään halua. Muuta kuin, että suksivat v*****n Ukrainasta.
Sen jälkeen voivat kiehua omissa liemissään aivan vapaasti. Kukaan ei häiritse. Kiinalaiset kyllä ostavat halvalla jos jotain myytävää on.
 

Lemponen

Jäsen
Suosikkijoukkue
Kärpät

Euro71

Jäsen
Suosikkijoukkue
Kärpät, olosuhdesyistä HIFK
Kilpavarustelu on jatkuva kierre, mutta Venäjän kannalta siinä ei ole mitään järkeä. Kremlin regime tuosta kuitenkin viis veisaa, ja kilpavarustelu kiihtyy varmaankin tulevaisuudessakin.
Silloin historia toistaa itseään, myös Neuvostoliitto ajoi itsensä umpikujaan kilpavarustelulla.
 

Wiljami

Jäsen
Suosikkijoukkue
Jukurit, sympatiaa muuhun Savoon ja Kaakonkulmalle
Silloin historia toistaa itseään, myös Neuvostoliitto ajoi itsensä umpikujaan kilpavarustelulla.
Nykyversiolla naapuristamme ongelmana on jo lähtökohtaisesti että koko valtakoneisto on tottunut varastelemaan parhaansa mukaan. Lähtötilanne varustelulle olisi siis jo ilman Ukrainan sotaa todella heikko naapurille, mutta sodan myötä kaikille on käynyt ilmiselväksi ettei siellä ole edes niitä pahvikulisseja. Tuon takia mitään mitä naapuri ilmoittaa saavuttaneensa ei todennäköisesti uskota lännessä, eli naapurin olisi ihan oikeasti ja todistettavasti tuotettava jotain pätevää materiaalia, mikä on luonnollisesti hankalaa kun pohjat ovat olemattomat, suuri(n?) osa pätevästä henkilökunnasta on lomalla lännessä, ja budjetin pitäisi mennä vielä tarkoitettuun kohteeseen rahoista vastaavan pankkitilin sijaan.

Melkein tuntuu että noiden olisi jo aika ns. nostaa käsi pystyyn virheen merkiksi ja luovuttaa, mutta siinä on luonnollisesti se harmillinen puoli mafiosojen kannalta ettei tuota pysty millään tunkioimperiumin propagandalla kääntämään alamaisille voitoksi. Toisaalta Ukrainan uusi taktiikka tukea vapaan Bilhorodin yms. kansantasavaltoja (suorana trollauksena jämäneukkulan paskanaamailulle viimeisten 9 vuoden ajalta) on jo riisunut pikkukeisarilta vaatteita myös naapurimme alamaisten silmissä, vaikka luonnollisesti yrittävät parhaansa mukaan spinnailla "kahnauksia" omaan narratiiviinsa sopiviksi.
 

jalperi

Jäsen
Suosikkijoukkue
SaiPa,sympatiat Itä-Kaakkois-Suomi-Turku akselille



Duuman edustaja Zatulin Yhtenäisestä Venäjästä (!) myönsi tylysti, ettei yksikään NWO Ukrainan tavoite ole saavutettu, eikä Venäjällä ole enää voimaa vallata Ukrainaa. Hän totesi, että hyökkäys oli virhe ja että hän vastusti alun perin LDNR:n tunnustamista, koska se oli ansa
On ominaista, että Putinin puolueen edustaja syytti suoraan Putinia Janukovitšin valtaan nostamisesta ja vastuusta Ukrainan epäonnistumisista. Siellä oli erittäin mielenkiintoisia keskusteluja. Vuosi sitten tämä ei ollut mahdollista.
 

Euro71

Jäsen
Suosikkijoukkue
Kärpät, olosuhdesyistä HIFK

Itse näen merkkejä siitä, että Venäjä on nyt hiljalleen luisunut kuilun partaalle. Romahdukseen tarvitaan enää vain sysäys. Sen ei tarvitse olla Ukrainan vastahyökkäysten täydellinen onnistuminen, riittää, että Venäjä kohtaa muutaman isomman tappion eikä sen ote enää pidä, vaan se syöksyy kuiluun:

 
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